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Date: August 30, 2010 at 14:25:47
From: Anders, [0x5e91ff25.adsl.cybercity.dk]
Subject: DIY ATC C4 sub

URL: http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/downloads/driver_specifications_sb.xl.zip


I have been looking at the ATC C4 sub with their 12" bas unit and digital amp. I currently have the active SCM50's and a Tact RCS mini 2.2, which feature a configurable LP filter and gain/phase control. As the C4 sub is very expensive and I don't need all the controls due to the abilities of the Tact I thought of building my own with the same driver coupled directly to a similar specified amp as the original (650W/8ohm). As far as I know the C4 is a closed design with the measures of 582x500x500mm with build in amp. Doing the calculations with the drive unit data and a Qtc of 0,7 gives a volume of only 40 liters. A Qtc of 0,5 gives 95 liters, which would match the outer dimension of the box better. Can this really be true or am I on the wrong track here?

Driver specs can be seen in the link.

Thanks Anders


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Date: August 31, 2010 at 01:47:08
From: andrewt, [host86-169-101-57.range86-169.btcentralplus.com]
Subject: Re: DIY ATC C4 sub


Hi,
do you have the T/S parameters for the driver?
A Qtc = 0.5 is unusually low for a sealed sub.
Have you used the sealed driver calculations in this Forum?


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Date: August 31, 2010 at 11:43:04
From: Anders, [1053ob.scansafe.net]
Subject: Re: DIY ATC C4 sub


Yes I used the excel sheet. Here are the parameters:

Fs=23 Hz
Qms=1.5
Qes=0.3
Vas= 245 litres
Cms= 6.3
Mms= 73 grams
Rms= 7 N.s/m
Resistance nominal= 5.4 ohms
Impedance nominal= 8 ohms
Max tracel= 25 mm
Diaphragm effective area= 550 cm2
Nominal power rating= 75 W
Maximum input power= 150 W
Maximum power program= 300 W

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Date: September 01, 2010 at 01:42:51
From: andrewt, [host86-160-42-37.range86-160.btcentralplus.com]
Subject: Re: DIY ATC C4 sub


download WINisd pro.
input your data and your amp power.
see all the displays as graphs. Very good software.

It will also show just how little bass extension there is in a sealed box.
Download Linkwitz transform design and read up on LF equalisation and Q adjustment. I recommend a Maximum of 10dB of LF gain to maintain good sound quality. Many use between 15dB and 18dB of LF gain.
Be very careful with power going this EQ route. You can burn out the VC very easily or run out of Xmech and damage the driver.


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