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From: brad williamson, [12-245-27-111.client.attbi.com]
Subject: Aluminum cone subdrivers
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Hello, Still searching for the right replacement for the 10 inch driver in my subwoofer and a fairly extensive search on the net led me to this question.. why aren't any high end aluminum coned subwoofer drivers available to the diy'er? There are dozens of car stereo aluminum cones available out there but a few sources have warned against their use in home as they were designed to work best with the added gains peculiar to a car cabin. The reason for my interest is that so many of the finest home stereo speaker builders seem to be coming out with subwoofers using their own "proprietary design" aluminum cone drivers. And they state some pretty persuasive reasons for doing so. Klipsh, Jbl, Thiel, and many other lesser known "boutique" lines of very high end stuff are using aluminum sub drivers. Can just the drivers be obtained anywhere? thank you B Williamson |
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From: Henrik, [12.22.223.3]
Subject: Re: Aluminum cone subdrivers
| Although not a 10", Madisound.com offers a couple of 8" aluminum cone drivers by SEAS. |
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From: Jon, [gatekeeper.trltech.co.uk]
Subject: Re: Aluminum cone subdrivers
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BK Electronics in the UK do a v.nice range of Aluminum drivers. http://www.bkelec.com/HI-FI.htm Jon. |
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From: Adrian Mack, [dialup-196-100.wasp.net.au]
Subject: Re: Aluminum cone subdrivers
URL: My Peerless XLS Dual Passive Radiator subwoofer project
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Thats because.. there arn't. At least I dont know any home audio woofers with aluminium cones, but I know plenty of car audio drivers with aluminium cones (like audiobahn for example). I personally dont see any reason as to why a kevlar cone, nomex, cabon fibre etc cant be used. These cones are just as stiff as a aluminium cone, and sound just as good. As for using car subwoofers in home, some woofers you can get away with it, others just sound like garbage due to the properties of your living room. |
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From: Brian W, [pcp01474781pcs.montvl01.pa.comcast.net]
Subject: Re: Aluminum cone subdrivers
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some manufacturers make cones out of aluminum because it's a strong yet lightweight material that is fairly easily fromed into whatever shape you want. plus, aluminum has one of the highest specific heats - compared to most other metals. but the bottom line is this - a cone should be extremely rigid and lightweight to achieve accurate sound and very fast response. aluminum is a great material to use, and it looks really cool, but it's expensive and there are other materials that work just as well. to the best of my knowledge, most aluminum cones are used in drivers that produce a considerable amount of output, and don't seem too well suited to sound quality applications, but once again, different strokes for different folks. |
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From: Brian, [gnd210-238.caribsurf.com]
Subject: Re: Aluminum cone subdrivers
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An aluminium cone provides the additional advantage of acting as a heat sink for the driver's coil - something you'd like to have particularly if you're talking about a car audio subwoofer in a small sealed cabinet :-). For home use, aluminium is probably not going to provide any additional advantage over other stiff materials. |
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From: Brad, [208.252.221.7]
Subject: Re: Aluminum cone subdrivers
URL: Thiel Loudspeakers
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I stumbled on this web site. I'm not meaning to flame anyone, but it appears to me that although you guys may have allot of experience with auto-sound (which I don't) you clearly have very limited knowledge/experience with home audio, or "high-end" (I hate that word). Some of the most respected, and expensive speaker makers use aluminum drivers. Genesis (too expensive - went out of business) Theil - one of the most respected mfg's Klipsch etc, etc. Have a look here... http://www.thielaudio.com/THIEL_Web/Pages/cs7_2.html The raw (home) audio aluminum sub drivers are out there, you just have to look harder. Post this question to the www.audioasylum.com forum(s) hope this helps. |
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From: brad, [208.252.221.7]
Subject: Re: Aluminum cone subdrivers
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here's one, though it's not cheap :) http://www.stryke.com/SATser.html |
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